Milestone Auctions. Follow me onFacebook @argoman400BCto keep an eye on the latest additions and promotions. Overall this is a very attractive and eminently displayable example of the classic World War II eraV-44 Survival Knife. This knife is early production, indicated by the maker information being stamped directly on the blade: U.S. M3 KINFOLKS INC. As issued, the blade's secondary or false edge was intentionally sharpened and beveled for only a portion of its length, leaving an unsharpened spine on the top of the blade in an effort to stiffen the relatively narrow blade. At termination of production in August 1944, the M3 trench knife had one of the shortest production and service records of any U.S. combat knife. However, it was particularly designed for use by elite or 'shock' forces in need of a close-combat knife such as airborne troops and Army Rangers, and these units received priority for the M3 at the start of production. I noticed the seller has several on ebay, all look refinished. But it's good to see folks picking up on discrepancies. In addition to further information on Books One and Two, collectors can click on tabs to view Knives for Sale, Videos, Groupings, Knife Photos, the History of Collecting and the Encyclopedia of WW2 US & Allied Military Knives. These are not empty words. Knives that have been refurbished are usually sharpened before Parkerizing, so no white line. Lots of questions! Mark 1s by Colonial had injected plastic handles. North American Auction Company. The Cattaraugus 225-Q had one of the strongest blades of any World War II combat knife. Blade is marked USMC and KA-BAR. Shipping, Payment & Auction Policies. Survival, This is an M3 fighting knife. This is the earlier version of the scabbard, but like virtually all M8 scabbards, had the retaining loop at the top added to upgrade it to M8A1 specs. Hope this helps to clarify things. The leather scabbard shows wear. Blade Dated Kinfolks M3 Fighting Knife | Legacy Collectibles Fastening snap functions great. All parts of knife are solid. Leather grip is tight but has been painted red in the slots. Vintage Kinfolks US Marine Fighting Knife With Kinsfolk Sheath USA Made WWII Era trufflepig1 (151) $145.90 Vintage Old US Early KINFOLKS Hunting Knife & Sheath Gift for Him Gift for collector Gift for Hunter JewelryBLACKSWAN (324) $110.00 Vintage Randall knife model 14S vintage JudithsTreasureShop (4) $750.00 Knife ( fixed blade ) The M3 was selected because it was easier to manufacture and had a thinner blade, which was 6.75 inches and sharpened the full length, excluding the stamped tang area. In the post-war period Kinfolks returned to their pre-war production of utility, household and hunting knives, but by 1957 were unable to remain in business due to labor disputes. Kinfolks blade date pommel left,blade marked right. Shop by category. Blade measures 8 inches in length. May 6, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WWII-1943-Kinfolks-Inc-US-M3-Trench-Fighting-Knife-M8-B-M-Co-Scabbard-/142371694104?hash=item212603a618:g:EY8AAOSwtGlZCnfT, Original blade-dated Kinfolks have pinned pommels, and blued finish. The Western Cutlery knives (known as the W-49 Bowie) are the scarcest of the "V-44s", with the Kinfolks produced knives being the next rarest variant. WWII CASE US M3 FIGHTING KNIFE & USM8 SHEATH, ALL . [2] The M3's blade design continued in U.S. military service in the form of the U.S. M4, M5, M6, and M7 bayonets. Leather grip shows some wear but is tight. Learn more about our privacy notice and user agreement. Awesome find in this Fairbairn Sykes fighting knife from the second World War. Stamped Kinfolks USA on one side and a man's name lightly stenciled on the other. The M3 was initially issued with a stitched and riveted leather M6 scabbard with a protective steel tip designed to prevent the point from piercing the sheath and injuring the wearer. Sign up for a new account in our community. standing for the manufacturer American Fork & Hoe Company. The blade dated PAL and UC are pinned in his illustrations. [4] Reports of blade failures on M3s in service increased as soldiers began to use their trench knives for ordinary utility tasks such as opening ammunition crates and food ration tins, a rle for which the M3 had not been designed. This sheath is also correct for all post-war U.S. bayonets including the M4, M5, M6, and M7. The Allied Campaign in Italy, 1943-45: A Timeline, Part One The most commonly encountered version of the rare Western V-44 used steel rivets to secure the Bakelite grips and had a narrow, oval shaped flat steel crossguard, rather than the brass barbell shaped guard. KA-BAR, Robeson, Pal, Utica, Ontario and Camillus were the major manufacturers of the Mark 2. This one has a staked pommel, and appears to be refinished,plus the handle does not appear correct, looks like handle was replaced. $150.00 + $10.05 shipping. With proper care this knife will last you another 75 years . Remaining strap is soft. Scabbard is nice with no damage. The handle was stacked leather, generally grooved. Learn more about account protection. Leather rings make up the handle. Hi, I am selling these knives on ebay, Please contact me if you need to see further pictures before passing judgement and I'll be more than happy to send them. There are a significant number of different varietiessome historians say as many as 42. WW2~ Camillus NY. While the designation may not be accurate, it has become a collectors term of convenience and I will use it as well, as most knife collectors know exactly what you are talking about when you say V-44. Grip is real nice with no damage. About Me Collins & Company, Case, Kinfolks and Western produced the knives during the eight years that they were manufactured for the US Army Air Corps. The blade has a 4 false edge, and a pair of very narrow, 3 5/8 long fullers, near the spine on each side of the blade. According to knife collector, researcher and author Bill Walters, only two of the brass mounted Western V-44 knives are known to exist. The M4 bayonet was an adaptation of the M3 combat knife for use on the M1 Carbine. As the U.S. The carbine bayonet, now designated the Bayonet, U.S. M4, was added to the Company Table of Organization in June 1944, and the M3 was declared to be a limited standard ordnance item, with supplies to be issued until exhausted. Blade has not been sharpened. and "W. Sinnreich". Overall length is 10 1/8 inches. Blade shows sharpening. Cases initial production knife was a copy of the third Collins production variant with Bakelite grips, the barbell shaped brass guard and brass rivets to secure the grips. PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION:This WW2 Case Stiletto Fighting Knife is in nice condition showing some light wear. While the knife itself was generally well-made and balanced (some paratroopers and rangers mastered the art of using the M3 as a throwing knife), the long, narrow, dagger-like steel blade, designed to economize on priority steel requirements, was best used as a thrusting or stabbing weapon, and performed less well when used for slashing strokes. Blade is unsharpened. Scarce knife . [2][3][4][5] As more M3 knives became available in 1943 and 1944, the knife was issued to other soldiers such as Army Air Corps crewmen and soldiers not otherwise equipped with a bayonet, including soldiers issued the M1 carbine or a submachine gun such as the M3 "grease gun".[1][2]. Camillus Fighting Knife is in fair condition showing use and wear. Summary; Recently Viewed . If you have a question, go to Help & Contact. Is there a way to date an old Kinfolks hunting knife? Blade finishes were blued and polished. Later production Case V-44s adopted poured lead rivets to secure the grips instead of the brass rivets. They are not knife people,we are. I can't really see the pommels due to the photo angle. In excellent used condition. Leather scabbard is also in nice condition and snap functions nicely. I asked Gary about this and he said that new workers in the factory did not always get the peen right. Sincerely, Lisa. Since 2002, LiveAuctioneers has made exceptional items available for safe purchase in secure online auctions. Fastening snap functions great. The initials "IJ" are scribed into the scabbard. This attractive WW2 era Kinfolks fighting knife has not been cleaned or tampered with in any way, the set is in 100% original as is condition. Let's see what he says. Us Wwii Kinfolks Fighting Knife With Original Leather Scabbard Blade looks like it was possibly made from a 16" Garand bayonet. The grips are inFINEcondition and are free of any breaks, cracks or repairs. Leather V42 type scabbard is nice and solid. The scabbardwas manufactured by Beckwith Mfg Co. a division of Victory Plastics. This is afine condition WWII period Mark 3 U.S. fighting knife, made by the very scarce maker, Kinfolks, Inc., and contained in an original M8 Scabbard. The M3 replaced the OSS dagger in service in 1944. The knife is about 9-1/2 / 24 cm overall; fullered blade is about 5 /12.6 cm long; it is very sharp still; the tip is intact. Original WW2 Kinfolks 6" Blade Fighting Knife | eBay During the Second World War, Kinfolks produced a variety of edged weapons for the US government, including knives and bayonets. COVINGTON -Rare FSSF Knife, Kinfolks Knife with Stacked Leather Handle & Sheath, US WW2 CASE XX PIG STICKER fighting trench knife 3 sm pin 29th Infantry Div, WW2 CAMILLUS NY USN MARK 2 GUARD MARKED FIGHTING KNIFE ORIGINAL SHEATH **MINTY**, Vintage KINFOLKS RARE HUNTING KNIFE 5" Steel Blade BONE Handle Full Tang, US WW2 CASE XX PIG STICKER fighting trench knife leather sheath scabbard wwii, WW2 RED SPACER USN PAL RH37 MARK 2 FIGHTING KNIFE IN ORIGINAL SHEATH ***MINTY***, WW2 USMC Custom Fightimg Knife EGA East Bros Sydney, US WW2 Custom RANDALL Model 1 Springfield Fighting Knife w/ Sheath, Rare, Vintage, Yellow Kinfolks Model Y330 & Y333 Twin Set, Hunting Knife, Case. The improved M8A1 scabbard manufactured later in WWII added the wire hook. What It should look like on a proper dated Kinfolks Last comment I'll make, the RCC being sold has a 7groove handle, never saw one before, and the PAL blade-dated was he one with what looks like the square cut out like an M4, but filled in. Scabbard is real nice with no damage. sac dep spa 115. unable to attach to the process a debug component is not installed. The M3 was designed to meet a shortage of combat knives, especially in early 1942. This is a World War 2 era "Kinfolks" fighting knife, or otherwise known as a commando knife. Kinfolks Knives - All About Pocket Knives Many times the guards and pommels were mixed and matched. The white line referred to, comes about when the knife has a factory edge that was done after the knife was Parkerized. The Kinfolks brand was acquired by Robeson Cutlery of Perry, NY, where knives with the Kinfolks name were produced under the direction of another Case cousin, Emmerson Case. $240.00. I have a few more vintage American-made knives, as well as WW2 era combat knives and bayonets, scarce WW1 and WW2 fighting daggers and trench knives from other countries available for sale please take a look in our Militariasection. by Wayne Goddard Measures approximately 13" long with scabbard. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Camillus N.Y. . FREE SHIPPING WITHIN THE U.S. FOR THIS ITEM. Scabbard does not appear to be the correct. Sold for $100 on Nov 18, 2017. . Kinfolk WW2 Era fighting knife with Kinfolk leather scabbard in good condition, Plus $ 26 Shipping & Insurance to lower 48 States, if buying a gun buyer has to supply a copy of FFL dealer license to ship the gun to, 3 day inspection period, buyer is responsible for shipping cost both ways, Money Order or Certified Check, you are responsible to make sure item is legal in your area, 985 991-0138 . . Argocoinsaccepts all major credit cards and payments via PayPal as forms of payment. Les meilleures offres pour Couteau de combat lame Kinfolks original de la Seconde Guerre mondiale avec fourreau en cuir Kinfolks sont sur eBay Comparez les prix et les spcificits des produits neufs et d'occasion Pleins d'articles en livraison gratuite! marked M4. The guard has a rich, uncleaned ocher patina that is very attractive. Catalog of Standard Ordnance Items of 1943 clearly explained: The Trench Knife M3 has been developed to fill the need in modern warfare for hand-to-hand fighting. DESCRIPTION: A World War II (WW2) United States Navy early fighting knife made by RH Pal Remington. They were issued with leather scabbards, which had a long leather belt loop and amazingly did not include a handle retaining snap strap except on the scabbards provided with the knives delivered by Western Cutlery. My US MILITARY FIGHTING KNIFE website is designed for collectors. The pommel was flat steel and pinned to the tang. handguard butt cap and leather handle are in great shape. There are people on the military knife forum saying this and other m-3s your selling are altered /fakes. All sales to/deals with Russia are void forever. Some military knivesnot just the 225Qwere stamped very lightly, while others were deeply stamped. Also saw one being sold that had what looked like the little square cut on an M4, but filled in and buffed. Scarce type in great condition, considering the age. The bottom section is enforced with an extra section of leather attached via four large rivets. Did you look at the rest of them? Condition: As FoundDimensions: L-12".Provenance: From a New York City Estate. Waterman Co.) fighting knife; scarce 7.5-inch blade type, original scabbard, WW2 era Camillus official-issue US Coast Guard 1944 USCG knife, rosewood handles, orig shackle; scarce type. The blade had a massive blood groove and upswept false edge on the spine. That changed my whole perspective on identifying a replaced handle. Having all three of these anomalies would cause me to pass until I had satisfactory answers. We've beat this dead horse. Scarce A.C.C. Original leather scabbard is in good overall condition, considering the age; the keeper is falling apart and it had came off completely but it could be replaced a relatively easy fix. As the thinking goes, the rather stout blade was designed to open various wooden cratesan important part of the quartermasters joband the triple steel pommel was used to nail the crates closed. The rare Western produced V-44s were a simplified version of the 3rdand 4thproduction Collins #18 knife. Scabbard is nice showing some light wear but no damage. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright document.write(new Date().getFullYear()); Caribou Media Group | All rights reserved. WWII USN MK2 Fighting Knife by KA-BAR with Sheath. Blade measures 5 inches in length. Leather sheath is initialed "W.S." Thank you gentlemen, this is the discussion I hoped we could have. | Privacy. I asked the seller about them. Nice WWII German reproduction knife with scabbard. Rare Fighting Knife. Fighting Knife is in fair condition showing some wear and age. [2] While specified priority steel supplies for both knives were available, the M3's lower production cost compared with that of the KA-BAR convinced the SWPC board of directors to approve the M3 prototype for quantity production.[2][5]. Skip to main content. One is the Shark. Western made two: one with a 6-inch blade, the G46-6, and one with a 5-inch blade, the G46-5. Blade edges have not been sharpened. Displays well. Sold Out Item # 64276 $185.00 More Info For Sale By: Kennedy Knives Kinfolks Knife & Hatchet with Leather Sheath PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION:This M1 Garand Bayonet is in nice condition showing some wear and age. [4][2][5] This limited the usefulness of the M3 when employed for backhand slashing strokes. Does anyone have a Kinfolks, blade dated M3 they can post for comparison? Made in USA. Blade is tight. All original rivets and keeper are intact; some stitching loss is noted for accuracy; the leather is soft and supple still. Follow me onFacebook @argoman400BCto keep an eye on the latest additions and promotions.. FREEUSPS PRIORITY MAIL SHIPPINGWITHIN THE U.S. FOR THIS ITEM.