The hardest thing to deal with was the duality of my involvement, he said. The Neallys, who have spent the last year in a rented home in Cypress, have bought a home in Yorba Linda, about 15 miles east of their old neighborhood, and plan to move in by November. Two or three times a month, Sue Nelson digs out newspaper stories of the crash and her parents videotapes of television newscasts. Times Staff Writer. Both planes crashed to the ground, killing everyone aboard. Rescue workers stand over one of two black boxes, the cockpit voice recorder, recovered from the Aeromexico DC-9 Sunday, September 2, 1986 in Cerritos, Calif. He dwells more on lifes what-ifs. Credit Cards Accepted. The note read: Plane hit house. You dont seem moved, the reporter said. People just wanted to move on.. Unlike war veterans, the people of Cerritos were not expecting to be attacked. . Andy, who is 39, is an attorney at Apple in Cupertino, and Rob edits movie trailers in Sherman Oaks. On Aug. 31, 1986, Aeromexico Flight 498, a Douglas DC-9, flying from Mexico City to Los Angeles International Airport, collided with a Piper PA-28 Archer over Cerritos. He tried to tell her what had helped him: Always remember your parents love for you and rely on the love of your family. We moved back, but for me that just made it worse, Estrada said. Seat belts dangled from charred tree branches. He is the author of four books, most recently a memoir/collection I'm Dyin' Here. Lawns and streets were littered with often unrecognizable pieces of bodies, intermingled with equally unrecognizable parts of the orange-colored airliner. Today we talk about what has become known as "The Day the Music Died"On February 3, 1959, rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big B. He also remembered the sound of ambulances. He is the author of four books, most recently a memoir/collection I'm Dyin' Here. Nearby Hotels. Of the six families whose homes were destroyed without loss of life, five plan to move back. A Times headline the next morning described it as a sledgehammer from the sky.. The night before the crash, McIllwain had come home at 1 a.m. As usual, he went into his parents bedroom to let them know he was home, and kissed his mother good-night. They were the children of Laura Rickard and Xochiquetzaltzin Cronkhite. Today, Neally, a Los Angeles County weights and measures inspector, lives with his family in Yorba Linda, 15 miles east of the home where they lived 15 years. Airline spokesman Guy Arriola said 58 passengers and six crew members were aboard the DC-9 when it went down about 20 miles east of the airport. Both planes crashed to the ground, killing everyone aboard. Through sheer chance, the plane landed most directly on homes that were rented by people who had not been in the neighborhood long--the Estrada family, the families of Rickard and Cronkhite and the extended American Indian family of Howard Yackytooahnipah, which lost six members. Tim Grobaty began his career at the Press-Telegram in 1976 as a copy boy and has held several positions at the paper including feature writer, music critic, TV critic, copy editor and, since 1991, daily columnist. I stared at that hole, and for a lot of nights after that, I dreamed about that hole.. There was Medina, with his wife, Fanny Patricia, his son, Ivan Jr., and his wifes niece. There , they say. No amount of money can replace the people we lost. Did they feel the collision? It took different lengths of time for different people, Ray said. They had left Torrance Airport and headed for Big Bear, while an Aeromexico DC-9 flying from Tijuana was bound for Los Angeles International. Koepke was in the heat of the disaster, where residents had been incinerated in their homes and houses were blazing, fully involved. I used to say, Thats the way its going to be. Im not the same. On Aug. 31, 1986, the then sleepy suburban town of Cerritos was faced with unfathomable tragedy when a commercial aircraft collided with a small plane directly over the city. Dr. Patrick OConnor, head of the countys Rio Hondo Mental Health Center in Cerritos, and the man who led an effort to offer counseling to all of the citys residents immediately after the crash, said such reactions are part of the post-traumatic stress syndrome that affects many combat veterans. At first, he was overly protective of family members and friends, trying to make sure that everyone was safe. Maybe Billings is right. I have these blank spots, she said. Fire and first responders were just arriving. Be the first to add a review to the 1986 Cerritos mid-air collision. The cause of the crash--an inadequate air traffic control system and poor judgment by the small planes pilot--was settled long ago. This was an accident.. Aug. 31, 1986: The smoldering ruins of homes mark the area of Cerritos where an Aeromexico jetliner fell to earth. The crash, caused when a single-engine Piper Cherokee struck the DC-9 as the jet approached Los Angeles International Airport, killed 15 people in four homes, all 64 aboard the jetliner and all three in the Piper. (File photo.). For goodness sake, he thought with the embarrassment of a 16-year-old, Im only going to church. There are no commemorative plaques. On March 21, 2022, the Boeing 737-800 B-1791 of China Eastern Airlines Yunnan Co., Ltd. was carrying out the MU5735 Kunming-Guangzhou flight. Its an event. But it has been worse. Her 8-year-old son, Robbie, who had watched the Aeromexico plane spiral down as he stood in his front yard, overheard her. We forget it. In that brief flash of time, the 58 passengers of the. All but one of the flight's 157 passengers were killed. He stayed with her for more than an hour, talking to her and praying with her. A neighbor, seeing Koepkes clerical collar, urged him to follow him to where Theresa was sitting in a neighbors living room. She mentioned they would fly to their departure point. (AP Photo/Lennox McLendon), This iconic photo of the Aeromexico DC-9 plummeting from the sky was taken by then-Cerritos Planning Commissioner Al Francis, who had been taking pictures of his granddaughter at his home at the time of the plane crash in 1986. 82 people total lost their lives, including 64 on the DC-9, 3 on the small plane and 15 on the ground. This margin of safety is far greater than the limits by which near-collisions are defined. It was so late he figured he would skip church for the first time in two years and sleep in. He lights a cigarette--a habit hes fallen back into after 17 years of abstaining--and compulsively checks the house for escape routes. Maybe the girl was too young to understand what he wrote, but perhaps one day she would read those letters and they would help. Thats how many people described the day up until 11:56 a.m.: quiet. But things were far from normal. Often, when shes sitting on her patio or in her driveway, Gail Grossman will watch airplanes trace the skies over her house on Ashworth Place. She was expecting a pension from her husbands employer, but it was held up. Twenty-six years have passed since a Piper Cherokee Archer II and Aeromexico Flight 498 collided in the skies above Cerritos, and claimed the lives of 82 people, destroyed 11 homes and severely damaged seven other residences. . . Get a heart attack and die?. A month later, Sue Nelson was talking about a cruise the family would take in several years. The small plane involved in the collision, which the Federal Aviation Administration said was a single-engine Piper Cherokee, crashed about a half mile away in the yard of the Cerritos Elementary . There is general agreement that since the crash pilots have been more inclined to file reports. He snapped a picture of the jetliner as it was diving earthward. He refers to his being saved occasionally and looks forward to each day of his life.. . The sculpture bears the names of all of the victims. After the Cerritos City Council discussed commemorating the 10-year anniversary of the crash, two dozen residents signed a petition asking that no ceremony take place. At the GTE building, an impromptu disaster headquarters, he saw his father, Dennis, who had left the house that morning at the last minute for a quick visit with Jeffreys aunt in Pomona. Two planes a jetliner and small single-engine aircraft collided over Cerritos. Parking. Slowly, they realized she had seen a newscast about an airliner that had crashed on a Mexico City freeway that week, killing 54 people. What remains unsettled, and in many cases deeply hidden, are the emotional consequences. Perhaps she had miraculously escaped. Run away? We saw people in their closets that couldnt understand why they were saved and their neighbors houses blew up with the airplane, Knabe said. Cronkhite and her husband were helping them. You can imagine who those belonged to. Their terror had to be a hundred times worse than ours, Wes Neally said. About 20 houses were either completely or partially destroyed. Hes not the take-charge guy he used to be. You either died or you didnt.. Aug. 31, 1986: Firefighters and investigators examine wreckage of the small plane that collided with Aeromexico Flight 498. Its the voice thats not there; the laughter thats not there. She made a telephone call to her office and returned to tell Estrada that the Cerritos City Council had voted to allocate $25,900 of the citys crash-victims fund to Alejandro and Frank Jr. The crash of Aeromexico Flight 498 killed 82 people: 64 jetliner passengers, 15 people on the ground and three in the small plane that collided with the jet as it approached Los Angeles International Airport. On the 25th anniversary of the Cerritos Air Disaster last year, the city of Cerritos held a special ceremony honoring the lives of those who perished as a result of the plane crash, drawing hundreds of community members from the Southland as well families and friends of the deceased victims. She loved buying books for Jeffrey. By the time Neally found Carmeen and the two young girls, their street had formed a wall of fire. The coroners office says everyone on the Aeromexico jet did die on impact, but Guzman cant help wondering whether they had to experience the fire, too. I looked around and I had friends who lived in that neighborhood and I didnt know if they were dead or alive.. From this tragedy, the entire aviation industry changed. . After the crash, I didnt feel like I was one of the good guys. Like all survivors, she had to confront the question of whether there was a reason she lived and they died. National Transportation Safety Board Aircraft Accident Report: Collision of Aeronaves de Mexico, S.A McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32, XA JED and Piper PA-28-181, NF891F, Cerritos, California, August 31, 1986. Bob Kirkpatrick, a computer programmer in Spokane, Wash., said in an interview tonight that the dead pilot was his father-in-law, William C. Kramer, a 56-year-old retired executive with the Kaiser . You have written in the past about readers being too dimwitted to tell the difference between your sarcastic stuff and your serious stuff, he wrote. That, too, gives him a pang. Thanks for the history lesson, Cheech. OHair, former chief of community outreach for the San Diego County Department of Mental Health, said that as long as 2 1/2 years after the San Diego crash, we were seeing people who we hadnt seen before who were saying, essentially, I cant go on with this (memory of the crash), its interfering with my life too much. But it doesnt go away. The views expressed here are the author's own. 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She wouldnt go by that site. Thats what people thought of when they thought of Cerritos, said Diana Needham, a City Council member at the time. We all just feel, Neally said, groping for the right words, like we were totally violated. Wifi. The crash of . Another woman telephoned a restaurant to make a reservation and, upon giving her distinctive last name, heard the maitre d ask whether she was the one who had family on the jet.